Comments on: Battery-farmed milk? http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/2010/03/battery-farmed-milk/ News and information about Abel & Cole Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:06:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Shirl http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/2010/03/battery-farmed-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-217 Shirl Sun, 02 May 2010 12:19:20 +0000 http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/?p=791#comment-217 yes fantastic news about the withdrawal of the dairy factory. I emailed the council and all due respects they emailed me about the withdrawal. The people behind the proposals are retreating under the revision of further technical research! Who cares as long as it does not go ahead. Interestingly enough an article in Private Eye No 1260 16-29 April is about Peter Willes a director of Parkham Farms Ltd. who were fined £6, 700 for polluting a tributary of the River torridge in north Devon by an overflowing underground storage tank with waste milk and polluting the stream with numerous colonies of blood worms. The article goes on to say that 5 years ago Peter Willes was himself given a 12 month conditional discharge after pleading guilty at Barnstaple magistrates court to "veterinary medicines offences." The Veterinary Medicines Directorate and Irelands Department of agriculture investigation resulted in a number of illegal veterinary medicines being seized from Sedborough Farm Devon in Aug 2003. These were antibiotics for the cattle and are not authorised in the UK. Say no more. yes fantastic news about the withdrawal of the dairy factory. I emailed the council and all due respects they emailed me about the withdrawal. The people behind the proposals are retreating under the revision of further technical research! Who cares as long as it does not go ahead. Interestingly enough an article in Private Eye No 1260 16-29 April is about Peter Willes a director of Parkham Farms Ltd. who were fined £6, 700 for polluting a tributary of the River torridge in north Devon by an overflowing underground storage tank with waste milk and polluting the stream with numerous colonies of blood worms. The article goes on to say that 5 years ago Peter Willes was himself given a 12 month conditional discharge after pleading guilty at Barnstaple magistrates court to “veterinary medicines offences.” The Veterinary Medicines Directorate and Irelands Department of agriculture investigation resulted in a number of illegal veterinary medicines being seized from Sedborough Farm Devon in Aug 2003. These were antibiotics for the cattle and are not authorised in the UK. Say no more.

]]> By: ChezP http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/2010/03/battery-farmed-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-190 ChezP Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:38:46 +0000 http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/?p=791#comment-190 Fantastic news! Fantastic news!

]]> By: Abel & Cole http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/2010/03/battery-farmed-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-189 Abel & Cole Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:06:45 +0000 http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/?p=791#comment-189 And again... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/13/animal-welfare-nocton-dairies-farming And again… http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/13/animal-welfare-nocton-dairies-farming

]]> By: Abel & Cole http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/2010/03/battery-farmed-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-187 Abel & Cole Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:27:32 +0000 http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/?p=791#comment-187 Look what we found...good news eh? Hope to find out further confirmation soon. http://www.granthamjournal.co.uk/news/national/giant_dairy_farm_plans_withdrawn_1_471991 Look what we found…good news eh? Hope to find out further confirmation soon.

http://www.granthamjournal.co.uk/news/national/giant_dairy_farm_plans_withdrawn_1_471991

]]> By: Patricia Manchester http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/2010/03/battery-farmed-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-185 Patricia Manchester Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:48:35 +0000 http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/?p=791#comment-185 800 Cows mean that 800 calves will have to be born every year as well in order to produce milk, what will happen to them? When will we ever learn surely, CJD, Bird Flu, Swine Flu, are they not bad enough diseases that pass from animals to humans. The thought of these creatures being under lights 24 hrs and not grazing is horrendous. I buy organic meat and use smaller amounts for a meal which works out cheaper. Scientists state that we were the healthiest during the war so surely we should go back to growing veg and baking ourselves and eating more veg and less meat again, pesticides were not used in abundance then. If we could get a newspaper on board to petition against these farms we would stand a better chance of no more popping up. Do you all remember the daily mails campaign not to use carrier bags? It really hit home for people all over. 800 Cows mean that 800 calves will have to be born every year as well in order to produce milk, what will happen to them? When will we ever learn surely, CJD, Bird Flu, Swine Flu, are they not bad enough diseases that pass from animals to humans. The thought of these creatures being under lights 24 hrs and not grazing is horrendous. I buy organic meat and use smaller amounts for a meal which works out cheaper. Scientists state that we were the healthiest during the war so surely we should go back to growing veg and baking ourselves and eating more veg and less meat again, pesticides were not used in abundance then. If we could get a newspaper on board to petition against these farms we would stand a better chance of no more popping up. Do you all remember the daily mails campaign not to use carrier bags? It really hit home for people all over.

]]> By: Lilly http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/2010/03/battery-farmed-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-184 Lilly Tue, 06 Apr 2010 19:05:40 +0000 http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/?p=791#comment-184 Is there not some petition we can sign?! I went onto the site suggested in the article above but the number of documents listed was overwhelming! Is there not some petition we can sign?! I went onto the site suggested in the article above but the number of documents listed was overwhelming!

]]> By: Les Collins http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/2010/03/battery-farmed-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-177 Les Collins Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:14:14 +0000 http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/?p=791#comment-177 Please, everybody, watch the television programme "Countryfile" on BBC1 this Sunday, which will feature this appalling venture. I have emailed Nocton Dairies Ltd and North Kesteven Council, and I urge everyone to do the same. Don't be taken in by the honeyed words of Nocton Dairies. They might sound quite convincing in their desire that the health, well-being and happiness of every single cow is at the heart of what they do. They really must have got a professional psychologist/spin doctor to write their publicity. Please, everybody, watch the television programme “Countryfile” on BBC1 this Sunday, which will feature this appalling venture. I have emailed Nocton Dairies Ltd and North Kesteven Council, and I urge everyone to do the same. Don’t be taken in by the honeyed words of Nocton Dairies. They might sound quite convincing in their desire that the health, well-being and happiness of every single cow is at the heart of what they do. They really must have got a professional psychologist/spin doctor to write their publicity.

]]> By: Shirl http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/2010/03/battery-farmed-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-170 Shirl Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:11:12 +0000 http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/?p=791#comment-170 Not only is this totally cruel to the animals, but surely we have must have learned something from the BSE crisis to know that this will just lead to more problems getting into our foodchain. If this dairy factory is allowed to go ahead, it will open the flood gates for more of these factories to open all over the country. This will hasten the demise of the small dairy farms. The milk which will come out of the factory will be laden with anitbiotics, growth hormones, etc., as the animals will mostly be inside the sheds, milked 3 times a day! What does that say about the quality of the milk! This milk will be so cheap, that dairy farmers won't be able to compete. Do we really need so much milk, I doubt it, this milk will be in direct cometition with similar factories in the middle east, eastern europe, and america. This milk will then end up being used in processed foods, and no doubt in formula baby milk as well. When we have another crisis on our hands like BSE (cattle), SARS (fowl), Swine flu (pigs), will we see Peter Willes (the farmer behind this project) or a local Lincolnshire councillor going in front of the press getting a small child to drink a glass of milk to show how safe it is, like John Gummer in 1990 during the BSE crisis when he showed the press that beef burgers were safe to eat as he fed it to his daughter. The vast amount of manure that this will create is another disaster waiting to happen. At this moment in time I'm just thankful that I don't live in Lincolnshire. Best thing to do is to log an objection on the Lincolnshire Council website, and to contact your local MP to log an objection that way as well, because if this goes ahead, then other areas throughout the country are likely to be next! Not only is this totally cruel to the animals, but surely we have must have learned something from the BSE crisis to know that this will just lead to more problems getting into our foodchain. If this dairy factory is allowed to go ahead, it will open the flood gates for more of these factories to open all over the country. This will hasten the demise of the small dairy farms. The milk which will come out of the factory will be laden with anitbiotics, growth hormones, etc., as the animals will mostly be inside the sheds, milked 3 times a day! What does that say about the quality of the milk! This milk will be so cheap, that dairy farmers won’t be able to compete. Do we really need so much milk, I doubt it, this milk will be in direct cometition with similar factories in the middle east, eastern europe, and america. This milk will then end up being used in processed foods, and no doubt in formula baby milk as well. When we have another crisis on our hands like BSE (cattle), SARS (fowl), Swine flu (pigs), will we see Peter Willes (the farmer behind this project) or a local Lincolnshire councillor going in front of the press getting a small child to drink a glass of milk to show how safe it is, like John Gummer in 1990 during the BSE crisis when he showed the press that beef burgers were safe to eat as he fed it to his daughter.
The vast amount of manure that this will create is another disaster waiting to happen. At this moment in time I’m just thankful that I don’t live in Lincolnshire. Best thing to do is to log an objection on the Lincolnshire Council website, and to contact your local MP to log an objection that way as well, because if this goes ahead, then other areas throughout the country are likely to be next!

]]> By: Deborah O'Reilly http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/2010/03/battery-farmed-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-169 Deborah O'Reilly Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:35:08 +0000 http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/?p=791#comment-169 If Ghandi was right and the measure of a society's true strength is how we treat our animals then the Nocten proposal is yet another example of how low we have sunk. We need to stop worrying so much about our own trivial issues and more about the most fundamental betrayals that we are visiting on animals. If Ghandi was right and the measure of a society’s true strength is how we treat our animals then the Nocten proposal is yet another example of how low we have sunk. We need to stop worrying so much about our own trivial issues and more about the most fundamental betrayals that we are visiting on animals.

]]> By: Doug Hall http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/2010/03/battery-farmed-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-161 Doug Hall Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:10:53 +0000 http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/blog/?p=791#comment-161 An uncontrolled market for anything without regulation will automatically lead to innovations to reduce costs as much as possible and hence gain an advantage in the market. It will however also encourage small producers like Berkeley Farm to look for particular market sectors to boost their income. The only way forward in this situation is to educate the buying public about how the product is produced and what they are missing out on in terms of taste, texture and health benefits. Only then will a higher number be willing to pay a premium for better quality products. My wife has just made an egg custard with Berkeley Farm semi skimmed milk, the taste and texture were a revelation the best we have ever tasted even when compared with supermarket organic milk. More people need to know about and experience the difference it makes to convince them. An uncontrolled market for anything without regulation will automatically lead to innovations to reduce costs as much as possible and hence gain an advantage in the market. It will however also encourage small producers like Berkeley Farm to look for particular market sectors to boost their income.
The only way forward in this situation is to educate the buying public about how the product is produced and what they are missing out on in terms of taste, texture and health benefits. Only then will a higher number be willing to pay a premium for better quality products.
My wife has just made an egg custard with Berkeley Farm semi skimmed milk, the taste and texture were a revelation the best we have ever tasted even when compared with supermarket organic milk.
More people need to know about and experience the difference it makes to convince them.

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